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desi-mohamad · 02-27-2009, 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ionel

Multimeter is best tool i use in gsm enginering .

+1 me too the multimeter is essential

Gubby_J · 02-27-2009, 17:20

Big laugh, this is not television, radio or any other common electronics.

Using Osciloscope, is a big waste of time and money, you get to use this type of measurement technique.
You get there, just no sense and repair cost.

Thank's

medis · 03-03-2009, 18:21

Hi folks

I have said many times,that is not important,which equipment do you use.
The main goal are result.If someone can repair phones with
dance and drum ,i don't care

BTW,few days ago one's phone's repair were possible ONLY with oscilloscope.
So,don't say that they are useless.
LCD,battery change or pour out all board with flux and then burn out all elements- this isn't serious repair job....

br

NAVEED74 · 03-06-2009, 16:49

ya thats right. but as now a days most of the problem can understand with Software boxs, with there error reading so i think that way is better and fast.

BR

Naveed Yousaf

mazmaz1 · 03-22-2009, 10:31

Hello
each tools suitable for relative case problem solving.
Software problem,hardware problem.
type of hardware problem,pwm issues,rf issues,data transferings,connections,component testing,values measuring,..... .
One tool is not for all type of issues.
in many cases a mutimeter in ohm section may solve your proble easy than water drinking and a voltage measuring may solve your problems.
or an oscilloscope in analog values and section testing for its functionality.
a fast storage oscilloscope or DSO for viewing fast values that happen in micro seconds.
a spectrum analyzer for rf and pf fuction testings.
or a local gsm or wcdma signal generator for easy and fast working for service centers.
all are suitable for special type of issues.

nhoy_mags · 03-22-2009, 14:08

oscilloscope is for advance repairer.

Nurettin Duman · 03-22-2009, 18:10

Oscilloscopes

Innovation right from the Beginning…
http://www.hameg.com/15.0.html

**Rizal Arsyad Dini** · 04-10-2009, 11:20

dear all....

im so sorry... im not an expert... but how we can say osciloscope is not needed???

if we dont know about how to use... we can find the way about how to learn.....

for what reaseon NOKIA make this pic in their schematic????

in mobile phone we have make measurement about voltage, clock, data.. etc...

if we can use it and can read schematic i believe we can solve many hardware failure... of course with software help.....

i hope we can be more profesional with this tool

im not only talk... i use 2 osciloscope in my workshop...

i hope we can help each other to be a better technician....

br

wanepong · 04-10-2009, 11:41

is that new flasher box bro ? (in your right beside power supply)

nice daeng.....

**Rizal Arsyad Dini** · 04-10-2009, 11:43

yes.. the name is paru2 box..... with tali rapiah as the cable... very good flasher box

br

ceyad · 04-10-2009, 11:50

BEST TECHNICIAN eat TOBLERONE

wanepong · 04-10-2009, 12:12

when daeng realase that box ? i wan't to order n give me sapisial price please, i trusrt your box. bravo ichal EsPeYe

yhanie · 04-10-2009, 12:26

the box flasher name's dodolzz....not for shale........if u want need....u just can contact person ichal espeye.....i sure, that very useful box

dzunlocker · 04-10-2009, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichal_spy

dear all....

im so sorry... im not an expert... but how we can say osciloscope is not needed???

if we dont know about how to use... we can find the way about how to learn.....

for what reaseon NOKIA make this pic in their schematic????

in mobile phone we have make measurement about voltage, clock, data.. etc...

if we can use it and can read schematic i believe we can solve many hardware failure... of course with software help.....

i hope we can be more profesional with this tool

im not only talk... i use 2 osciloscope in my workshop...

i hope we can help each other to be a better technician....

br

Your kaspesky ket is blocked

Ashwani Gaur · 04-11-2009, 04:09

@ ichal_spy

Can you pls tell us what is Bandwidth of ur Oscilloscope ( i mean is it more than OR equal to 2Ghz)

i fell with simple Oscilloscope upto 50Mhz , Which is very common also not very expansive, one can use only to read maximum 26Mhx XTAL function or Clock XTAL function.

NOTHING MORE THAN THAT (excluding DC voltage - for which a simple DMM is good )

regards

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Gubby_J Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bulgaria,Veliko Tarnovo Posts: 430 Member: 131788 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 69	Big laugh.... Big laugh, this is not television, radio or any other common electronics. Using Osciloscope, is a big waste of time and money, you get to use this type of measurement technique. You get there, just no sense and repair cost. Thank's

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nhoy_mags Insane Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: PILIPINAS Posts: 67 Member: 497949 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 6	oscilloscope is for advance repairer.

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04-10-2009, 11:20	#98 (permalink)
Rizal Arsyad Dini Product Manager Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Indonesia Age: 45 Posts: 3,918 Member: 39251 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1618715 Thanks Meter: 6,155	dear all.... im so sorry... im not an expert... but how we can say osciloscope is not needed??? if we dont know about how to use... we can find the way about how to learn..... for what reaseon NOKIA make this pic in their schematic???? in mobile phone we have make measurement about voltage, clock, data.. etc... if we can use it and can read schematic i believe we can solve many hardware failure... of course with software help..... i hope we can be more profesional with this tool im not only talk... i use 2 osciloscope in my workshop... i hope we can help each other to be a better technician.... br

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wanepong Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 13 Member: 230449 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 8	is that new flasher box bro ? (in your right beside power supply) nice daeng.....

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Rizal Arsyad Dini Product Manager Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Indonesia Age: 45 Posts: 3,918 Member: 39251 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1618715 Thanks Meter: 6,155	yes.. the name is paru2 box..... with tali rapiah as the cable... very good flasher box br

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wanepong Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 13 Member: 230449 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 8	when daeng realase that box ? i wan't to order n give me sapisial price please, i trusrt your box. bravo ichal EsPeYe

04-10-2009, 12:26	#103 (permalink)
yhanie Major Poster Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: any where Posts: 47 Member: 720915 Status: Offline Sonork: 4824472 Thanks Meter: 9	the box flasher name's dodolzz....not for shale........if u want need....u just can contact person ichal espeye.....i sure, that very useful box

04-11-2009, 04:09	#105 (permalink)
Ashwani Gaur No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: CHANDIGARH - INDIA Age: 59 Posts: 2,006 Member: 2822 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 152	@ ichal_spy Can you pls tell us what is Bandwidth of ur Oscilloscope ( i mean is it more than OR equal to 2Ghz) i fell with simple Oscilloscope upto 50Mhz , Which is very common also not very expansive, one can use only to read maximum 26Mhx XTAL function or Clock XTAL function. NOTHING MORE THAN THAT (excluding DC voltage - for which a simple DMM is good ) regards